tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post2004666149528550815..comments2023-10-31T10:59:03.023-04:00Comments on INKSPOT Crime Fiction Blog | A Place for Mystery, Mayhem, Writing and Life: Ethos, Logos, PathosLinda O. Johnstonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01512430135042480450noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-76617729344997093822011-02-07T21:11:29.269-05:002011-02-07T21:11:29.269-05:00There's a lot of reasons I appreciate your pos...There's a lot of reasons I appreciate your post, Cricket, but the foremost is your explanation of logos. I bet every author has had those people who come up to them and say, "I've had the craziest life, and it would make a great book."<br /><br />And they tell you the story of their life, and it makes a GREAT story but would make a terrible book because there is too much about it that isn't believable. That idea of internal consistency is hard to explain, but you did it well. Thank you!Jessica Loureyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11157662092822156124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-61929623429868554112011-02-07T20:28:32.395-05:002011-02-07T20:28:32.395-05:00It also comes up in speech class, which I'm te...It also comes up in speech class, which I'm teaching now. We talked about Aristotle on Day One, and now we analyze every bit of rhetoric in terms of its ethos, pathos, or logos.<br /><br />Tomorrow they're looking for those very ideas in infomercials. :)Julia Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10270211923343731659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-1125645201375805012011-02-07T13:21:35.515-05:002011-02-07T13:21:35.515-05:00Cricket - the "vengeance is mine" thing ...Cricket - the "vengeance is mine" thing he does find tricky.G.M. Malliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13805971625496094303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-8352162802004219482011-02-07T13:07:15.434-05:002011-02-07T13:07:15.434-05:00Darrell, I love that you create characters that ch...Darrell, I love that you create characters that challenge your own sensibilities.<br /><br />You are so right, Beth! Truth is often stranger than fiction is ever allowed to be.<br /><br />Thanks, Kathleen! Don't know that it's necessary to deconstruct our writing this way, but I couldn't help myself. ; - )<br /><br />Gin, does your priest have to deal with conflicts between his religious values and the values of his former profession?Cricket McRaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786996969148417569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-21670990585392259962011-02-07T12:31:54.001-05:002011-02-07T12:31:54.001-05:00My latest sleuth is a priest, so a lot of what you...My latest sleuth is a priest, so a lot of what you talk about applies, same as with my cop St. Just. They don't exactly make up their own rules but they do think for themselves. Might bend a rule or two. I don't mention this to the reader...hopefully the reader will agree with me these are good guys, if fallible.G.M. Malliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13805971625496094303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-61939333247886964982011-02-07T12:12:00.876-05:002011-02-07T12:12:00.876-05:00Interesting post! I've never broken down my b...Interesting post! I've never broken down my books with those thoughts in mind, but perhaps I should!Kathleen Ernsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009876100214388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-37786318491486810772011-02-07T10:44:31.821-05:002011-02-07T10:44:31.821-05:00Great post, Cricket! The one problem I have with L...Great post, Cricket! The one problem I have with Logos is that fiction characters often have to be more logical than people in real-life. Friends and readers are constantly calling my attention to "stupid criminal" stories or odd crimes, saying I should write about them, but if they appeared in a work of fiction, readers would way, "Nah, that would never happen!"Beth Groundwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13999372882748655834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3529128955266044151.post-18922433100868197832011-02-07T10:18:30.619-05:002011-02-07T10:18:30.619-05:00Cricket- Wow! It's awfully early for me to hav...Cricket- Wow! It's awfully early for me to have to think this hard.<br /><br />But, I guess my own ethical, logical and emotional standards become the guide for my characters (on either side of good and evil).<br /><br />As such, I usually don't have to think a whole lot about it as I'm writing. I have created characters that challange my own sensibilities, however. On those occasions, I then have to stop and reason my way to it from their POV.<br /><br />Good post. It does give me cause to think.Darrell Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08394984700734588887noreply@blogger.com